By Summer Hammond
“Are you using an external camera?”
“I’m not.” Maureen grits her teeth. She clicks things and jabs keys. God, whyyy? She checked last night and the camera was working fine. She thinks it was. She could see herself! Her sigh is so heavy she is nearly overcome by the scent of her own coffee breath.
“Any apps open that might be using your camera? Skype? FaceTime?” Jasper squints at the screen.
Jasper is one of three candidates being interviewed this morning for the “illustrious role” of Academic Success Advisor at Freedom Gospel University. Their interviewer, Dr. Michael Davidson, is running late—according to his assistant, who let them into the meeting but is staying off camera, muted, and not exactly swooping in to offer aid.
And then there’s Jasper, her rival, who is trying to help.
Maureen pauses to study him. Jasper has curly, red hair, a rather large pair of tortoiseshell glasses, and is wearing some kind of sweater vest, super preppy, all black except for a mysterious tiger-striped P on the left, near his shoulder. Early thirties, she estimates. Mentally, the calculations begin, the ones she never did before and that are now borderline obsessive. If Jasper’s thirty-two, that makes him, what—only fifteen years younger?
Fifteen years!
Maureen’s heart pounds like a toddler banging a drum, and to remedy that, she takes another swig of coffee. “No. No other apps open.”
“Alrighty,” Jasper says with a sigh. Then, “Try logging out. God! I should’ve told you that first.” He palms his forehead. His camera works so effectively, Maureen can actually see the tips of his ears redden to match his hair. Furthermore, she thinks that he bites his lip unnecessarily hard.
Seeing this grounds her. She was a teacher in the Houston School District for over a decade, seventh graders who far too often hadn’t eaten breakfast and whose folks, even working two or three jobs, still didn’t have enough money for school supplies. Jasper may not have grown up so poor that teachers like Maureen stepped in to pay for his lunch ticket. Yet the look on his face, the awful self-berating, well, that’s a look her students taught her to recognize.
“No problem, Jasper,” she says, gently. “I didn’t think of it either. I’m going to try that and hopefully, in a second here, we’ll have a proper introduction.” Otherwise, Maureen thinks, he might suspect she’s deliberately disabled her camera. He’ll wonder if she has something to hide. A terrible something that will instantly disqualify her from this position. He’ll try to imagine what it is. And possibly try to use it against her in the interview.
Her mind is getting away from her again but she can’t help it. She’s had way too many fruitless interviews, each tick of the clock is another high heel click to the grave, and her savings are endangered, swiftly going extinct.
Maureen tugs at her blouse, which, though light and airy when she put it on this morning, now feels like it’s choking her. She checks the time while she waits to reenter the meeting.
Two minutes to nine.
She pops back in at the same time as someone else.
Rita—the third candidate.
Maureen’s camera remains nonfunctional, so she evaluates the newly arrived rival.
She can’t be more than twenty-five. How is she even qualified? Maureen takes in the young woman’s long and sleek black hair, parted perfectly in the middle, her unimpeachable makeup, and red blazer. Why didn’t Maureen think to wear red? Red is a power color!
“Welcome, Rita!” she cries, congenial despite the acid rising in her throat. “I’m Maureen. You can’t see me.”
“Nice,” Rita says. “Did you put ‘invisible’ on your resumé?”
Jasper laughs, and Maureen’s mouth pinches. She knew a group interview for the same position couldn’t lead to anything good. Nevertheless, she wills herself to be the bigger person. “I should, Rita. I absolutely should. Nowadays, invisibility is my superpower.”
Silence.
Well, how would they get the joke? They can’t see her after all. Even if they could, they wouldn’t get it. They aren’t Silver Gazelles—the silly name of the Meetup group Maureen joined last year. Toni, the organizer, claimed that “silver fox” was clichéd and gazelles were equally beautiful animals. Plus, they didn’t steal chickens. True, Maureen had rejoined, they’re just routinely taken down by jackals and lions. No one had laughed then either, though the symbolism was astute. Toni insisted that they keep the vibe around aging “empowering.”
“Sooo—it’s five past nine,” Rita says. “Where’s boss man?” She leans in, peers into the screen as if Dr. Davidson might be hiding in the nooks and crannies of Teams. Her eyes! Almond shaped. Not brown, not green—an amber color. Maureen has to take a breath and remind herself: They aren’t hiring gorgeous eyes. But who is she kidding? Maureen’s been a woman in this world long enough to know that good looks can walk in a room and land the job before a single word gets spoken. The opposite, losing the job the moment they lay eyes on you, she’s learned is equally true.
It hurts to think this but—it’s probably a good thing her camera doesn’t work.
On cue, Jasper pipes up, “Hey Maureen. Did you set up your camera using the Microsoft Teams app?”
Maureen’s mind turns in circles, trips over itself. Did she? With totally manufactured confidence she replies, “Why, yes, Jasper, I did.”
“Did you update your camera drivers?”
“All updated.”
“Did you update your computer’s operating system?”
“Sure did.”
“What about reinstalling Microsoft Teams?”
“Totally reinstalled.” She takes a little sip of coffee, dancing her shoulders.
Jasper claws a hand through his hair. “Why isn’t it fucking working!”
Maureen grimaces. He’d better hope that assistant is out getting bagels. That kind of language won’t win friends and influence people here at Freedom Gospel. Poor Jasper. He already looks like he’s been through three rounds in the ring thanks to Maureen and her I Love Lucy moments. Jeannie, her older sister, had thus christened Maureen’s penchant for bad luck and blunders.
I Love Lucy moments. Leave it to her sister to reframe the situation so that Maureen felt quirky and loveable, instead of like a loser.
Maureen raises her eyes, overtaken by a sudden weird wish to say to Jasper, Hey, take it easy, kiddo, give yourself some grace, as if to one of her erstwhile seventh graders. She stops herself from committing this horrific embarrassment by speaking a different off-kilter thing she probably shouldn’t. “Don’t you all find it bizarre? A group interview for the same position?”
“Why would we?” Rita is engrossed in her phone, texting, her face taut, all corners and edges. A digital spat, Maureen infers. But not with a significant other. Possibly a parent. Something in Rita’s mouth, a specific kind of trembling vulnerability in her lower lip. Maureen, like all teachers, has become skilled at interpreting the subtle nuances of texting-face.
“Well, I don’t know.” Maureen does, in fact, know. She dislikes having her rivals uncloaked. She prefers to imagine that her competition suffers incurable and profound cases of garlic breath with, additionally, a roiling mess of earthworms for hair. But she’s not going to say that. “What if we copy each other’s responses?”
Rita drops her phone with a small thud. “What?”
“I was a teacher. If I’d told my students only one of them could get an A, then put them in a group to determine which one—they’d be at each other’s throats.”
“That’s the point,” Rita says.
“Excuse me?”
“They want us at each other’s throats.”
“They do?”
Jasper click-taps on the keyboard. “Hey, Maureen. Do you have any security software running? Sometimes security software can conflict with Teams—”
Rita interjects, “Listen, you don’t have to stress. This job is mine. There, now you can breathe.” She leans back, picks up her phone again. “Ten after nine!”
Jasper stops typing, and glares. “Were you hired behind the scenes? Do you already work there? Is Davidson related to you?”
Rita waves. “No, none of that. I’ve simply assessed my competition.”
Maureen thinks, I was right! Mean girl vibes.
“So you think it’s an easy win, eh?”
“She can’t get her camera to work, and you can’t troubleshoot. Does that scream Academic Success Advisor?”
Jasper smiles a slow smile while touching the mysterious, tiger striped letter on the top right corner of his vest. “What do you think this P stands for?”
Rita punches at her phone. “Pitiful.”
Maureen reaches for her coffee, shakes the last drops into her mouth.
“Ha! Try Princeton,” Jasper says.
Maureen’s coffee cup slips from her grasp and she does a wild-eyed, three-second juggling act to keep it from hitting the floor.
“Valedictorian, class of ’15.” Jasper drives it home.
Rita looks up from her phone. She narrows her eyes. Then, she shrugs. “Princeton’s nice. The campus is beautiful. The Japanese flowering cherry trees in front of Henry Hall almost got me. But you don’t turn down Harvard Medical School for cherry trees.” Her laugh twinkles, like a little bell.
Maureen presses her fingers to her temples. She should bow out now. It would be so easy. No one can see her anyway!
“Hold up.” Jasper squints. “Shouldn’t you be in some fancy residency? Why are you here, interviewing for this—”
“I haven’t started yet!” Rita cries. “Haven’t you ever heard of a gap year?”
“You’re going to work during a gap year?”
“That’s what Harvard students do.”
Maureen brings her hands down on the desk. “So! What church do you all attend?”
That quiet that falls is total. And telling. She smirks. She suspected as much.
Freedom Gospel University, according to their website, has a mission to educate “Crusaders for Christ”—a menacing term, Maureen thinks, considering the church’s history. Their library is named after Jim Bakker! Wasn’t that slimy narcissistic charlatan living in disgrace in a hut in the woods, too ashamed to show his face? Oh, no, Maureen’s research revealed—he was still on the air, hosting The Jim Bakker Show in Blue Eye, Missouri. During the Pandemic, he tried to sell what he called the “Silver Solution,” a Covid “miracle cure.” He had to plead with his fans to send checks when credit card companies, wisely, refused to allow sales. The man’s still going strong!
Nonetheless, Maureen wants this job. It’s teaching adjacent, remote, the salary is solid, with no papers to grade. And if she doesn’t generate some income soon, she’ll start rabidly biting people. Admittedly, she’s had a rough go, trying to imagine herself directing students to The Jim Bakker Library. She’d even rehearsed saying it aloud, and gagged, like a lethal fish bone was lodged in her throat.
Rita, chin in the air, says, “My parents were missionaries.”
Jasper says, “I’m a missionary.”
“You are not.”
“I’ve memorized the Bible.”
“Get a life!”
She should kick them both out into the hallway, but instead Maureen darts jovially into the fisticuffs, exclaiming, “Oh, I just love missionaries! I’m actually in charge of the youth missionary program at my church, City Church of Houston?”
They both look abashed. As they should. Missionaries. They may be Ivy Leaguers but they’re egregious actors. Maureen, on the other hand, was the star of the drama club throughout high school.
As though called into action, her camera spontaneously pops on.
“Whoa,” Jasper says. “It’s the Holy Spirit.”
Maureen waves. “My friends just call me Mo.”
The joke falls, splat, lifeless as a spaghetti noodle.
The way Jasper and Rita stare, even online—it’s unnerving. She knows exactly what they’re looking at. Can’t hide them, even on camera.
Those damn Silver Gazelles!
They’d finally talked her into ditching the dye. Peer pressured by Toni, the self-appointed aging guru, they were all “embracing the gray.” Maureen has emphatically not embraced the gray. She’s at war with it! Letting it conquer at Toni’s urging, yes, but furious and bitter every step of the way. Job interviews are the worst. Her silvers enter the room first, with a blast through the melanin megaphone, “HI, I’M AGING!”
How do you befriend gray hairs when they talk right over your education and accomplishments?
Thinking all this, a familiar agitation swells in Maureen’s gut. A painful wave of prickling heat crawls up her sternum, her throat, her face. She grabs the sides of her desk like she’s on an airplane with bad turbulence. Here we go.
Menopause is a disease, Maureen believes, and hot flashes are one of the most ignored, misunderstood, and flat-out minimized symptoms in medical history. It’s a social injustice, the way no one tells the truth about the relentless, brutal ass-kicking women are in for as they age!
One night, The Silver Gazelles had taken turns coming up with creative hot flash descriptions every doctor should be trained to recite:
A hot flash will turn your body into a burning building with no fire escape.
Imagine the worst period-cramp pain—only as heat.
It will build like an orgasm except you will climax in sweaty anguish, praying to die.
Maureen closes her eyes, tries to breathe, though none of that Zen shit helps. And she knows by now, in a professional situation, you’re absolutely, abysmally stuck. You can’t rip off your clothes and attempt to stuff yourself into the fridge like a Thanksgiving turkey.
“Maureen, are you okay? You are seriously flushed right now. And sweating.” Rita is not only watching, she’s set her phone down.
“Don’t fret about me. I’m just—” Maureen shakes her head, grabs a dish towel from her desk, one she keeps there all the time now, and mops her face and neck with it.
Rita’s face goes instantly serious. “Maureen, do you have any tightness or heaviness in the chest?”
“It’s not—”
“What about shortness of breath? Pain in the arm, jaw, shoulder, or neck? Women can experience different symptoms than men. Weakness, lightheadedness, and nausea. Give me the word. I will call an ambulance immediately.”
Rita isn’t joking. Her hand is on her phone. The muscle in her jaw twitches.
Maureen’s good and spooked. She checks in with her body. The hot flash has left her depleted and drenched, but otherwise—“I’m fairly certain I’m not dying,” Maureen says at the precise moment Dr. Michael Davidson finally arrives.
“What’s that? You’ve just been dying to meet me?” He claps his hands together, breaks into an enormous, white-toothed grin.
Maureen, Rita, and Jasper, like soldiers when the drill sergeant shows up, instantly straighten. In spite of the hardcore switch to interview mode, Rita’s face is still creased with the remnants of worry.
“Sorry I’m late, all, I had a—” Dr. Davidson scrunches his brow. “Maureen? You there? I think we’ve lost you.”
Oh, for crying out loud. Her camera’s off again. “I’m here,” she says, waving nonsensically. “I can see you. You just can’t see me.”
“No bueno! Are you using an external camera? Can you try logging out? Or restart your computer?”
She catches Jasper’s smirk. “Sure. I’ll try.” But she does no such thing. Instead, she flips on her ceiling fan, rips off her blouse, down to a tank top, scoops her hair up into a Silver Gazelle tail, tied up with a scrunchie.
Oh my God, that air on her neck! Caressing her face! Ventilating her cleavage!
And some people think sex is the highest form of physical ecstasy.
“All right, all, without further ado, here at Freedom Gospel University, Christian values are top priority, no matter the job role. Rita, let’s start with you. Talk to me about your faith.”
“I would love to, Dr. Davidson.”
Frantic, Maureen brings up City Church Houston on her phone. She’d practically memorized the church’s web page the night before, however, she knows by now, hot flashes reconfigure the brain in ways that don’t work in one’s favor.
She scrolls, finding the youth missionary trip organizer, a big-haired woman named Darlene Harlow.
Maureen and Jeannie were brought up as church-goers. Jeannie, the eldest sister, was first to drive and to date. And she was the first to unfriend God. Maureen remembers exactly when. They were at the cancer hospital, walking down a hallway, past a line of children in wheelchairs. All of them bald, wearing the same blue-checkered hospital gowns, with the translucent Snow White complexions her sister called “chemo skin.” Were they all waiting for treatment? Maureen had no idea. She just remembers how Jeannie had turned to her, her sorrowful hiss. “This is why I don’t believe in God anymore.”
Maureen definitely won’t be telling that story.
Instead, when Davidson asks her to share her faith history, she reads almost word for word from Darlene Harlow’s bio, the sheer joy and life affirming purpose she’s found, organizing mission trips that will save souls worldwide, and so on. She makes it sound natural, of course, with pauses, inflections, feeling. And she must pull it off because—
“Amen, Maureen!” Dr. Davidson throws a fist in the air while taking notes. “Jasper, you’re up next. You ready for this?”
“Yes, sir.”
“How does your background and experience equip you to be a better Academic Success Advisor than your fellow candidates?”
Maureen is not surprised when Jasper immediately points out the P on his sweater vest. He then describes how his “rigorous” Ivy League education fostered an “unassailable” work ethic. He’s happiest when he’s working at least fifty hours a week, and that’s the kind of “single-minded, unstoppable quest for greatness” that won him Valedictorian, Class of 2015. This, combined with a “rich background” in supervisory and mentorship roles, “perfectly positions” him to lead, guide, and inspire the students at Freedom Gospel.
“Princeton!” Dr. Davidson whistles under his breath. “That’s hard to beat. What you got for me, Rita?”
Rita wears the steel jaw determination of a swimmer at the Olympics about to break a record. “Dr. Davidson, I graduated top of my class premed while engaging in a robust academic course load that led me straight to Harvard …”
Maureen has the urge to clap her hands over her ears. All this resumé language! All this shameless showboating! Why are these Ivy Leaguers even here? Shouldn’t they be off making scads of money at—wherever the cool young people with mile-high credentials work these days? Maureen doesn’t even know. She knows nothing. Only that this exorbitant, preposterous, self-congratulatory bragging—
“Maureen, what can you bring to this question that your fellow candidates haven’t?”
And off she goes. “Well, Dr. Davidson, I’ve earned two Master’s degrees, one in education and one in psychology. However, I attended a state school, not an Ivy. I knew I needed to save my money. I knew I’d need it. You see, I was hired to teach seventh grade language arts at Baxter Middle School.”
“Oh, wow.” Dr. Davidson nods. “I know Baxter. We’ve done some outreach in that community.”
She’s got him now. Right in the palm of her hand. Maureen sinks into a flow state, talking about her students and the genuine connection they developed with each other over time. The look on Dr. Davidson’s face, moved and captivated, gives her a dopamine high, makes her feel like she’s winning. So she drops in her “sixty-to-eighty hour work weeks” and adds a pinch of “unparalleled devotion.”
Dr. Davidson removes his glasses, rubs his eyes. “The Lord has sure thrown me a challenge today. This is a superior crop of candidates.” He gives his head a shake. “Can I hire you all?”
They laugh, but not really.
“Maureen, if you don’t mind, I’m going to call on you again.”
“Bring it!”
He smiles. “Your teaching story inspires. Why’d you leave?”
A hit to the gut. Imagine if she told the truth?
In the dream she’d had, she and her sister sat shoulder-to-shoulder on a park bench in some opaque location.
There were trees, or at least, the feeling of trees, and for most of the dream, she and her sister sat together quietly, the way they would sometimes after one of Jeannie’s treatments.
Jeannie turned to her with sad eyes. She said, “Work can be another way of ending your life.”
Maureen had bolted upright in bed, breathing funny, totally freaked.
She swore she could even smell her sister in the room—the sweet, fresh scent that was her, her skin!
In the grip of a panic attack, Maureen had called her doctor, booked a blood test, heart test, and of course a mammogram. The big, bad “Breast Test,” as Jeannie called it, came back clear.
But oof, her blood pressure was off the charts.
In the days that followed, Maureen found herself stalked by her sister’s words. Of course, once her imaginative frenzy faded, she realized it probably wasn’t actually her sister, she no longer believed in heaven or souls. More than likely, it was Maureen’s own subconscious, showing up with a hard but necessary truth—like a big sister would.
Why was she working evenings, weekends, even over holidays? Did her students need her to work like that? The administrators sure did. They loaded her up with tasks, many of them superfluous, burying her alive while clapping for her and calling her hero. But ultimately it was Maureen who accepted the additional work, growing a stellar reputation in the district, while becoming an equally stellar candidate for heart disease.
Work can be another way of ending your life.
The darkest question she posed to herself: Did she want to die?
She quit teaching, just to give herself space to consider that question. Sitting alone in her garden, staring at the big, bouncy leaves of the banana plants, shimmery with misting rain, she had looked past the plants, into herself, at the despair thickening between her ribs. Sure enough, she believed that all the good stuff was over. What did it matter if she left the world now?
This, Maureen thinks, is why no one’s honest in an interview.
The harrowing truth of human life that hides between the bullet points.
It alarms people. Particularly supervisors who prefer to pretend that the employees they hire aren’t the grieving, self-destructive, rapidly aging, desperate, and terrified messes that comprise most of humanity.
In response to his question, Maureen delivers a comforting, reliable trope. “Well, Dr. Davidson. I thrive on challenges and after over a decade at Baxter, I was ready to grow—and give—in a new opportunity.”
Dr. Davidson nods and smiles, writing this down.
Maureen wonders what it would be like if one of these interviewers, just once, were to ask something a little daring, a little risky. Something that mattered to a real human being. Something like: What has been your most compelling relationship on this planet and why?
She would say: My sister and I were raised by our grandmother. Our parents were addicts. They walked out. But me and Jeannie, I’m telling you the truth, we had everything. We had it all. We just lived in laughter. Boy, the two of us could really get going. We’d be at the dinner table laughing so hard, we’d fart. Our grandmother was a proper lady and she’d throw down her napkin, send us to our rooms.
Or, What’s been the most important work of your life that didn’t pay?
She would say: Sitting with my sister as she struggled to die. Not leaving her and not looking away. The last thing Jeannie did was give me heart fingers. It was her ritual. Growing up, if we were ever separated in a crowded place, as soon as she’d catch sight of me, she’d hold her hands above her head, and make heart fingers. Jeannie’s heart fingers were my own personal lighthouse. In the end, it tore me up, watching her struggle to give me our sign one last time. And then I held onto her hands and I did not let go, even when everything in me was begging for escape, retreat, relief. I was with her, really with her. No job or work has ever required half as much courage—or love.
Maureen smiles, and then, oh boy, oh boy, here they come. She blinks and blinks. These days, when she cries, she never knows for certain if it’s joy or anguish. These days, she can’t find a sure line between them. They mix.
Dr. Davidson is addressing Jasper. “Tell me about a time you helped someone who was having an issue at work. What did you do to support them?”
This time, rather than frantically prepare her own response, Maureen tunes into Jasper and really pays attention.
Jasper with his Princeton vest that makes him feel like Somebody. But also, that flamboyant, loaded P makes it more a vise than a vest, just squeezing the life out of him. Maybe things hadn’t turned out for Jasper quite the way he’d hoped. Maybe he’d struggled all through school with severe anxiety. Jasper’s vest insists that he be smart and competent every single second. Princeton Valedictorian Jasper had better have the answer! All it takes is a sand grain of failure, and the whole castle crumbles.
Jasper, what lights you up and makes your skin feel like a good home?
Maureen’s attention moves to Rita.
Goodness, she sits up so straight! This entire time. A spine that’s trained to perform like a circus animal. And her smile, too; it’s relentless. Maureen knows, it hurts to smile like that. Well, she thinks, it’s suffering to be invisible, and equally so to be hypervisible. Rita’s red blazer demands that she live up to it—perhaps like her parents, or whoever has severely agitated and reduced her nearly to tears while texting this morning. The blazer questions her character when she doesn’t meet standards. It harasses her. Why can’t she hack medical school? Why has she let herself down? Why is she here, breaking a sweat over a job she thinks is lame ? The red blazer won’t leave her alone.
Rita, what do you love so profoundly that it makes your heart whole?
Dr. Davidson now speaks to Maureen, asking the same question about a time she supported a co-worker.
Maureen says, “Dr. Davidson, that’s a good question. How do you take care of someone in distress? Can I be real with you?”
“Go right ahead.”
“This morning, Jasper helped me with my camera. I’m admittedly not the most tech-savvy individual. Jasper saw my frustration and he took it upon himself to generate possible solutions. I really appreciated that. And my camera did work, briefly! Rita then … she saw me have a bit of an issue. Well …”
Should she say it?
Why the hell not.
She has to live the rest of her life without her sister. No more shared cupcakes or heart fingers or fart-laughs. There is literally nothing left to lose that matters as much.
“I had a hot flash on camera. A very severe one. And Rita noticed! She was serious about helping me. One day, if she chooses, she’ll make an excellent doctor. God knows we need them. Especially women.”
“Well, that’s—” Dr. Davidson’s eyebrows leap. He looks around. Where’s that script?
He might as well throw his hands up, walk off the stage.
Maureen says, “Jasper and Rita, no camera was necessary. You both made me feel seen.”
When Jasper smiles, he looks so happy, so open, just like a kid.
And Rita—Maureen blinks. She can’t believe her eyes.
Rita holds up her hands.
Rita makes heart fingers.
No one can see, and it doesn’t matter. Maureen makes heart fingers back.
There, alone at her desk, she is so tender that—much like after a good laugh—
It hurts to breathe.
SUMMER HAMMOND grew up in rural Iowa and Missouri. She taught ninth grade reading in Austin, Texas, and earned her MFA from the University of North Carolina-Wilmington. Her writing appears in Sonora Review, StoryQuarterly, Moon City Review, and Tahoma Review, among others. Her fiction has been recognized as a semi-finalist for the Nimrod Journal Katherine Anne Porter Prize, runner up for the Iron Horse Long Story Prize, and finalist for the Missouri Review Jeffrey E. Smith Editors’ Prize. She won the 2024 Onyx Short Story Contest and 2023 New Letters Conger Beasley Jr. Award for Nonfiction.
This story is part of the online edition of Stonecoast Review Issue 22.
Photo by Caroline Hernandez